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are more diabetic and fatter. the i can all be fixed with good science. john: you have a book called "good calories, bad calories." but i know that a calorie is a calorie. >> the reason we get thats because we take in more energy than we expected. it becomes a unit of heat. protein, fat, the different types of carbohydrates, the glucose from fructose sugar, they all have different effects. whether or not you will store calories as fat order there will not the calories come up with a hormonal effects of the food. how much energy bring to us. john: but the u.s. department of health says a calorie is a calorie. >> it just hasn't been tested. one of the things we did when i started this organization. john: this being? >> the nutritionist study. we went back to world war ii to every scientist that attempted to answer that question. we foun 82 studies that have attempted to answer that. they were all probably the same limitations and prlems. in 2012, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence. a calorie is not a calorie, necessarily. john: one thing that absolutely must be true if you should eat less
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